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Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens.
Under-strength Bradford lost 58-20 to suffer a fourth successive defeat for the first time since Super League began.
But McNamara's injury-ruined side had fared well and led for much of the first half before crashing under a Saints barrage in the second period.
He pointed to Richard Silverwood's heavy penalising as one of the reasons the Bulls' opponents were allowed to pull away so convincingly.
"I don't want to use it as an excuse and we must learn to defend penalties better," said McNamara.
"It was penalty-try, penalty-try, penalty-try for a lot of that game and I was disappointed with the way we fell away at the back end of the match.
"But we did get absolutely bashed with a penalty count 19-5 against us and the players deserve better. It's a massive concern.
"I've got a bunch of really frustrated players pleading and getting no communication out there and they're not sure which way to turn at the moment. They don't know what they are getting pulled for."
Bradford were the best-disciplined side in the competition earlier this year but have now been ruined in three games on the trot after incurring the referee's wrath.
McNamara cannot understand what his players are doing differently and revealed: "There's been some big, crucial calls gone against us recently, ones which Stuart Cummings has admitted were wrong.
"It is worrying for me and our group of people. I don't think we're as ill-disciplined as these penalty counts are suggesting and I certainly don't think Saints were never offside in that game.
"Even at the end, they were absolutely miles offside from a scrum but we get pulled for a forward pass. Saints were very good but on the back of 19 penalties they were even better.
"Hopefully I'll try - try - and get some answers from Stuart Cummings this week."
McNamara, who was missing eight players, praised the way his patched-up side took the contest to red-hot Saints.
Tries from Semi Tadulala, Paul Sykes and Iestyn Harris gave them a shock 14-12 lead and he said: "We came to play and try our arm.
"The effort, endeavour and spirit was fantastic. We showed some enterprise, scored 20 points and probably could have scored more.
"The game was still potentially in the balance at 28-20 in the second half when we broke clear down the left but we missed out, had a player binned and it slipped away."
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CommentPosted by: TooL, in hiding on 12:52am Sat 14 Jun 08
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens.
When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever.....
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens.
When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever.....
Posted by: Tricky Dicky, Brunei on 1:12am Sat 14 Jun 08
By the way, Saints had 5 players out. Listening to independent commentators, they said the Bulls had a "discipline" problem with most of the penalties self-inflicted. Credit to those who turned and put their bodies on the line. It is shame though that the youngsters didn't get a longer run out as the game was clearly lost at three-quarter time.
By the way, Saints had 5 players out. Listening to independent commentators, they said the Bulls had a "discipline" problem with most of the penalties self-inflicted. Credit to those who turned and put their bodies on the line. It is shame though that the youngsters didn't get a longer run out as the game was clearly lost at three-quarter time.
Posted by: cj on 1:48am Sat 14 Jun 08
no wonder you're in hiding TooL talking tripe like that. what good would it do sacking him and who is available to replace him. it's about time some people that write on here started engaging their brains before letting their fingers loose on a keyboard. we were never going to win the game, all i wanted to see was passion and commitment. unfortunately i'm working nights so wasn't able to see the game but speaking to my other half the score doesn't mirror the game and we played well. so what more do we expect, 8 key players out is bound to have an affact.
no wonder you're in hiding TooL talking tripe like that. what good would it do sacking him and who is available to replace him. it's about time some people that write on here started engaging their brains before letting their fingers loose on a keyboard. we were never going to win the game, all i wanted to see was passion and commitment. unfortunately i'm working nights so wasn't able to see the game but speaking to my other half the score doesn't mirror the game and we played well. so what more do we expect, 8 key players out is bound to have an affact.
Posted by: EdthePom, Brisbane on 3:10am Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]TooL[/bold] wrote:
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens. When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever..... [/quote] Accept respnsibility for yet another under par refereeing performance? The refereeing this season has been bad accross the board.
So who would you bring in to replace McNamara?
TooL wrote:
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens. When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever.....
Accept respnsibility for yet another under par refereeing performance? The refereeing this season has been bad accross the board.
So who would you bring in to replace McNamara?
Posted by: Mick De Bull, Odsal on 6:03am Sat 14 Jun 08
This rule where players mist have both feet behind the line is a joke, Not one team adheres to that rule yet some seem to get punished more than others. Lets see how many times they get caught out tonight with that rule. Fassavalue had finnigan in a head lock yet we get penalised. I suggest Cummings and the RFL get sponsered by specsavers they might be able to see better. On a personal note I thought our performence was a lot better than our last home one much improved lads well done keep it up for next week.
This rule where players mist have both feet behind the line is a joke, Not one team adheres to that rule yet some seem to get punished more than others. Lets see how many times they get caught out tonight with that rule. Fassavalue had finnigan in a head lock yet we get penalised. I suggest Cummings and the RFL get sponsered by specsavers they might be able to see better. On a personal note I thought our performence was a lot better than our last home one much improved lads well done keep it up for next week.
Posted by: Monkfish, work on 8:05am Sat 14 Jun 08
The Bulls are that good, they can take Saints on at Knowsley Road with half a team and only use 15 players.
YOUNG POLICY MY BIG FAT HAIRY ARSE!!!!!!!
The Bulls are that good, they can take Saints on at Knowsley Road with half a team and only use 15 players.
YOUNG POLICY MY BIG FAT HAIRY ARSE!!!!!!!
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 8:11am Sat 14 Jun 08
We get pulled non stop for very very minior infringements that saints and Leeds get away with as far as I can see. I honestly think something is afoot here. When is the last time Ashley klein gave us anything? when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? What is going on?
We get pulled non stop for very very minior infringements that saints and Leeds get away with as far as I can see. I honestly think something is afoot here. When is the last time Ashley klein gave us anything? when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? What is going on?
Posted by: pitypoorbradford, bradford on 8:31am Sat 14 Jun 08
That was the most inept performance from a refereee I have ever seen. Talk about biased. The referee shaped the final result and was definitely St Helens man of the match. When one team is continually penalised and the other isn't for the same offences the end result is going to be the final score that happened yesterday. This is making rugby league a laughing stock and is going to turn people away from going to see matches. Great effort by the bulls and big rap to iestyn solomona and Platt who have come in for much criticism this year. We are in a transitional phase and Steve Mac is the man to lead is to where we once belonged and with a big wedge of cap space free next season expect some quality signings coming our way!
That was the most inept performance from a refereee I have ever seen. Talk about biased. The referee shaped the final result and was definitely St Helens man of the match. When one team is continually penalised and the other isn't for the same offences the end result is going to be the final score that happened yesterday. This is making rugby league a laughing stock and is going to turn people away from going to see matches. Great effort by the bulls and big rap to iestyn solomona and Platt who have come in for much criticism this year. We are in a transitional phase and Steve Mac is the man to lead is to where we once belonged and with a big wedge of cap space free next season expect some quality signings coming our way!
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 8:54am Sat 14 Jun 08
Coming on the back of a series of bizarre refereeing displays over the last 2 years that have invariably gone against us in brazenly unjust fashion it seems very strange indeed.
Coming on the back of a series of bizarre refereeing displays over the last 2 years that have invariably gone against us in brazenly unjust fashion it seems very strange indeed.
Posted by: Adrian, Bradford on 8:58am Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]TooL[/bold] wrote:
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens. When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever..... [/quote] And what do you want him to do? I mean what are they doing so wrong?
Is it any wonder we're getting 50 points put past us with a lop-sided penalty count? And I know it's easy to blame the referee but Leeds & Saints are NOT whiter than Daz Whites! Like it said, we've gone from the league's most disciplined side to the one of the worst and I can't see what's different...can you? I'm sure it's nothing to do with the big fat pay cheque you get for finishing top of the Frontline Fair Play table!
19-5 is not what I would call a fair call. We were in with a sniff with 20mins to go...so we're not doing that much wrong. If this is how it's going to be then lets hope the season ends in Rd27 not in a playoff exit.
TooL wrote:
Confused Steve McNamara will seek answers from referees boss Stuart Cummings after his Bulls side got "bashed" 19-5 in the penalty count during their loss at St Helens. When is this joker gonna accept responsiblity? He is clearly not up to the job if things are 'confusing' him. Time for a change before we disappear from the top six forever.....
And what do you want him to do? I mean what are they doing so wrong?
Is it any wonder we're getting 50 points put past us with a lop-sided penalty count? And I know it's easy to blame the referee but Leeds & Saints are NOT whiter than Daz Whites! Like it said, we've gone from the league's most disciplined side to the one of the worst and I can't see what's different...can you? I'm sure it's nothing to do with the big fat pay cheque you get for finishing top of the Frontline Fair Play table!
19-5 is not what I would call a fair call. We were in with a sniff with 20mins to go...so we're not doing that much wrong. If this is how it's going to be then lets hope the season ends in Rd27 not in a playoff exit.
Posted by: albion, west riding on 9:23am Sat 14 Jun 08
Are the bulls trained to be statues or does it come naturally?
Who was the idiot last week spouting about-we can still finish second?
Anyway i blame it on the ref! they are all biased you know.
Are the bulls trained to be statues or does it come naturally?
Who was the idiot last week spouting about-we can still finish second?
Anyway i blame it on the ref! they are all biased you know.
Posted by: Charlie Mc, Bradford on 9:24am Sat 14 Jun 08
It's a disgrace.
The refs job is to ensure an even penalty count, isn't it?
It's a disgrace.
The refs job is to ensure an even penalty count, isn't it?
Posted by: JonnyHammill, Bradford on 9:55am Sat 14 Jun 08
TBH im fed up of watching matches nowing that its going o be a stop and start affair due to the refferees. I think the bulls actualy gave alot of heart yesterday and alot of the players stood up to be counted.
TBH im fed up of watching matches nowing that its going o be a stop and start affair due to the refferees. I think the bulls actualy gave alot of heart yesterday and alot of the players stood up to be counted.
Posted by: Monkfish, work on 10:07am Sat 14 Jun 08
when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? Harris try, me thinks.
Most of the penalties came from offsides.
We can't blame the ref because half the team can't get their arses back 10m.
when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? Harris try, me thinks.
Most of the penalties came from offsides.
We can't blame the ref because half the team can't get their arses back 10m.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:09am Sat 14 Jun 08
At the risk of repeating myself ( a hundred times?) We'll get nothing as long as Stuart Cummuns is in charge of referreeing. The standards have plummeted since he took charge. Last years millenium robbery makes a mockery of those who say "we are always blaming the ref". We indeed have good cause to do just that. I can't think of a sport which has such poor officials as every game you watch is spattered with rediculous decicions.
At the risk of repeating myself ( a hundred times?) We'll get nothing as long as Stuart Cummuns is in charge of referreeing. The standards have plummeted since he took charge. Last years millenium robbery makes a mockery of those who say "we are always blaming the ref". We indeed have good cause to do just that. I can't think of a sport which has such poor officials as every game you watch is spattered with rediculous decicions.
Posted by: Elland-Bull, Elland on 10:20am Sat 14 Jun 08
Mr Silverwood's display was an exact replica of his display at Hull KR earlier on in the season, a heavy penalty count against us for sometimes non-existent offences whilst allowingthe home side to get away with the same things. He is for me the fussiest of the referees on the cirucuit at the moment but his performances of late need to be put before Mr Cummings.
The both feet behind the line rule needs to be scrapped as nobody pays any attention to it and saints should have been penalised at least thre times for it.
In terms of pride and commitment you cannot fault the lads for last night and everyone of them gave it there all. Even Harris looked commited to the cause for a change when robbing Long and Tadulala had a good game doing the same in the second half.
Will let Mcnamara off the hook for last night but we will need to see the same levels of commitment in these next two home games which are now must wins ! Or the pressure will be back on !!!!!
Credit to the fans that turned up last night and kept singing all the way to the end. At points the atmosphere at knowsley road was unusually quiet but for us. Overall was not that disapointed on the drive home.
Mr Silverwood's display was an exact replica of his display at Hull KR earlier on in the season, a heavy penalty count against us for sometimes non-existent offences whilst allowingthe home side to get away with the same things. He is for me the fussiest of the referees on the cirucuit at the moment but his performances of late need to be put before Mr Cummings.
The both feet behind the line rule needs to be scrapped as nobody pays any attention to it and saints should have been penalised at least thre times for it.
In terms of pride and commitment you cannot fault the lads for last night and everyone of them gave it there all. Even Harris looked commited to the cause for a change when robbing Long and Tadulala had a good game doing the same in the second half.
Will let Mcnamara off the hook for last night but we will need to see the same levels of commitment in these next two home games which are now must wins ! Or the pressure will be back on !!!!!
Credit to the fans that turned up last night and kept singing all the way to the end. At points the atmosphere at knowsley road was unusually quiet but for us. Overall was not that disapointed on the drive home.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:23am Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Monkfish[/bold] wrote:
when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? Harris try, me thinks. Most of the penalties came from offsides. We can't blame the ref because half the team can't get their arses back 10m.[/quote] It has something to do with Saints NOT getting punished for exactly the same offences.
Monkfish wrote:
when is the last time a close call on the video ref went our way? Harris try, me thinks. Most of the penalties came from offsides. We can't blame the ref because half the team can't get their arses back 10m.
It has something to do with Saints NOT getting punished for exactly the same offences.
Posted by: richard, cleckheaton on 10:27am Sat 14 Jun 08
here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of
here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:32am Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]richard[/bold] wrote:
here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of[/quote] Here we go again ????It often is the Refs fault. Why can't you guys accept that?? Have you forgotten Millenium 2007 or was the ref right there too??
richard wrote:
here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of
Here we go again ????It often is the Refs fault. Why can't you guys accept that?? Have you forgotten Millenium 2007 or was the ref right there too??
Posted by: bulls4eva, barnsley on 11:54am Sat 14 Jun 08
people should get behind mcnamara insted of slaging him off.
maybe people should wait for some of the injurd players to come back insted of judjing im with a lot of top players out.
and maybe if the [bold]bold[/bold] refarees wernt agenst bradford we might get somewhere.
people should get behind mcnamara insted of slaging him off.
maybe people should wait for some of the injurd players to come back insted of judjing im with a lot of top players out.
and maybe if the refarees wernt agenst bradford we might get somewhere.
Posted by: bulls4eva, barnsley on 11:55am Sat 14 Jun 08
people should get behind mcnamara insted of slaging him off.
maybe people should wait for some of the injurd players to come back insted of judjing im with a lot of top players out.
and maybe if the [bold]bold[/bold] refarees wernt agenst bradford we might get somewhere.
people should get behind mcnamara insted of slaging him off.
maybe people should wait for some of the injurd players to come back insted of judjing im with a lot of top players out.
and maybe if the refarees wernt agenst bradford we might get somewhere.
Posted by: SHAUN, richmond on 12:21pm Sat 14 Jun 08
As McNamara came into the players lounge last night....We thought we must have watched another game.."Im very proud of the Boys, they did the club proud"??? "Only let down by the ref"
Gasps...then someone said...but weve just been beaten by more than 6 converted tries??? Answer....."You have to be able to look beyond the score"????
Stunned silence!!!!!
As McNamara came into the players lounge last night....We thought we must have watched another game.."Im very proud of the Boys, they did the club proud"??? "Only let down by the ref"
Gasps...then someone said...but weve just been beaten by more than 6 converted tries??? Answer....."You have to be able to look beyond the score"????
Stunned silence!!!!!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 12:37pm Sat 14 Jun 08
There were times when the Bulls played some really good rugby and passed the ball about really well. With 3 or 4 players back there is every reason to look beyond that score. Macca is right to stay optomistic..Can't get my head around some of you lot. If the Superleague consisted of only teams playing the kind of rugby you want to see there would only be two sides, Saints and Leeds, playing each other every week. All the rest would not be good enough and would have their coaches sacked and disband. What a daft lot you can be.
There were times when the Bulls played some really good rugby and passed the ball about really well. With 3 or 4 players back there is every reason to look beyond that score. Macca is right to stay optomistic..Can't get my head around some of you lot. If the Superleague consisted of only teams playing the kind of rugby you want to see there would only be two sides, Saints and Leeds, playing each other every week. All the rest would not be good enough and would have their coaches sacked and disband. What a daft lot you can be.
Posted by: MadbullMick, All Over on 2:12pm Sat 14 Jun 08
Who is genuinley pleased with how Steve has us playing at the moment?
Be honest.
Who is genuinley pleased with how Steve has us playing at the moment?
Be honest.
Posted by: SHAUN, richmond on 2:29pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
There were times when the Bulls played some really good rugby and passed the ball about really well. With 3 or 4 players back there is every reason to look beyond that score. Macca is right to stay optomistic..Can't get my head around some of you lot. If the Superleague consisted of only teams playing the kind of rugby you want to see there would only be two sides, Saints and Leeds, playing each other every week. All the rest would not be good enough and would have their coaches sacked and disband. What a daft lot you can be. [/quote] Whatever we think Haitch, I will tell you one thing.....I have never seen a smaller away following from the Bulls, to the Saints since the 90s!!
It will be one man and his dog soon!!
haitch wrote:
There were times when the Bulls played some really good rugby and passed the ball about really well. With 3 or 4 players back there is every reason to look beyond that score. Macca is right to stay optomistic..Can't get my head around some of you lot. If the Superleague consisted of only teams playing the kind of rugby you want to see there would only be two sides, Saints and Leeds, playing each other every week. All the rest would not be good enough and would have their coaches sacked and disband. What a daft lot you can be.
Whatever we think Haitch, I will tell you one thing.....I have never seen a smaller away following from the Bulls, to the Saints since the 90s!!
It will be one man and his dog soon!!
Posted by: damo, wibsey on 4:48pm Sat 14 Jun 08
i thought we played ok in the first half but both teams in every superleagure game dont get back the full ten so the ref just chooses which ones to pick up on when he feels like it
i thought we played ok in the first half but both teams in every superleagure game dont get back the full ten so the ref just chooses which ones to pick up on when he feels like it
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 7:05pm Sat 14 Jun 08
Shaun you often do have to look beyond the score, it's not an unfair or silly thing to say at all. For much of the game we were in it and with all the guys out and especially Deacon it's not as bad as it looks.
Shaun you often do have to look beyond the score, it's not an unfair or silly thing to say at all. For much of the game we were in it and with all the guys out and especially Deacon it's not as bad as it looks.
Posted by: oddshapedball, bradford on 8:07pm Sat 14 Jun 08
More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 8:58pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]oddshapedball[/bold] wrote:
More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good. [/quote] No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
oddshapedball wrote:
More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
Posted by: andy, liversedge on 9:19pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]oddshapedball[/bold] wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good. [/quote] No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.[/quote] hi haitch you are right in what you say, my wife knows joes wife and orginally joe was taking his family home at the end of last season, he decided to stay for another season he has been fantastic for us in his time at the bulls no one can knock him.
haitch wrote:
oddshapedball wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
hi haitch you are right in what you say, my wife knows joes wife and orginally joe was taking his family home at the end of last season, he decided to stay for another season he has been fantastic for us in his time at the bulls no one can knock him.
Posted by: andy, liversedge on 9:27pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]richard[/bold] wrote: here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of[/quote] Here we go again ????It often is the Refs fault. Why can't you guys accept that?? Have you forgotten Millenium 2007 or was the ref right there too??[/quote] this bloke comes on here every week and knocks anyone who complains about the ref! he obviously isnt a bradford fan,i think his surname must be silverwood! did you watch the batley v doncaster game the other night haitch, fantastic game for the full 80 mins reffed by ronnie lawton he let them play and you hardly saw him in the game just how it should be.
haitch wrote:
richard wrote: here we go again, its all the referees fault yet again,every one of thosr penalties was justified he warned them FOUR times and still they took no notice,he tells them not to do it, they do it penalty end of
Here we go again ????It often is the Refs fault. Why can't you guys accept that?? Have you forgotten Millenium 2007 or was the ref right there too??
this bloke comes on here every week and knocks anyone who complains about the ref! he obviously isnt a bradford fan,i think his surname must be silverwood! did you watch the batley v doncaster game the other night haitch, fantastic game for the full 80 mins reffed by ronnie lawton he let them play and you hardly saw him in the game just how it should be.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 9:32pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]oddshapedball[/bold] wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good. [/quote] No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.[/quote] hi haitch you are right in what you say, my wife knows joes wife and orginally joe was taking his family home at the end of last season, he decided to stay for another season he has been fantastic for us in his time at the bulls no one can knock him.[/quote] Cheers Andy. I for one will remember his great efforts and big smiling face.
andy wrote:
haitch wrote: oddshapedball wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
hi haitch you are right in what you say, my wife knows joes wife and orginally joe was taking his family home at the end of last season, he decided to stay for another season he has been fantastic for us in his time at the bulls no one can knock him.
Cheers Andy. I for one will remember his great efforts and big smiling face.
Posted by: spiketacus, queensbury on 10:10pm Sat 14 Jun 08
i like macca a lot but his upbeat appraisal when we've conceded nearly 60 was ridiculous.silverwoo
d didn't help us but there again he's not supposed to.until we realise it's a 17 man game and use the bench correctly we'll be beaten each week.the other salient point is that saints had loads missing but managed to play with shape,pace and direction.we showed some nice touches in attack but our defence was shocking.what's happened to syke's hands by the way,he hits a ball up hard but spills so much posession it's getting embarrassing.fair play to iestyn though he's played well the last two weeks but it's too little too late.
i like macca a lot but his upbeat appraisal when we've conceded nearly 60 was ridiculous.silverwoo
d didn't help us but there again he's not supposed to.until we realise it's a 17 man game and use the bench correctly we'll be beaten each week.the other salient point is that saints had loads missing but managed to play with shape,pace and direction.we showed some nice touches in attack but our defence was shocking.what's happened to syke's hands by the way,he hits a ball up hard but spills so much posession it's getting embarrassing.fair play to iestyn though he's played well the last two weeks but it's too little too late.
Posted by: cj on 3:07am Sun 15 Jun 08
i've always thought that sykes is a bit suspect, he has a few good games and a few dire ones. i didn't expect us to win with a number of influential players out all i wanted to see was pride and passion from them. lets get rid of hape, his mind isn't on the game, get one or two players back and lets see what we can do. sacking the coach isn't a good idea as i've said before. if every team that had a bad season or two sacked their coach then it would be a sad state of affairs.
i've always thought that sykes is a bit suspect, he has a few good games and a few dire ones. i didn't expect us to win with a number of influential players out all i wanted to see was pride and passion from them. lets get rid of hape, his mind isn't on the game, get one or two players back and lets see what we can do. sacking the coach isn't a good idea as i've said before. if every team that had a bad season or two sacked their coach then it would be a sad state of affairs.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 9:26am Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]cj[/bold] wrote:
i've always thought that sykes is a bit suspect, he has a few good games and a few dire ones. i didn't expect us to win with a number of influential players out all i wanted to see was pride and passion from them. lets get rid of hape, his mind isn't on the game, get one or two players back and lets see what we can do. sacking the coach isn't a good idea as i've said before. if every team that had a bad season or two sacked their coach then it would be a sad state of affairs.[/quote] Well said Cj. There will be no doubt calls for the sacking of MacLelland and Noble after their dismal showing this week too! Harris played well, Koppy worked his socks off and Sol was immense. Tads did okay after his horrible injury last time out So many positives. Langley and Finnigan are not doing it for me. Evans was oblivious and I'm afraid Jefferies is not involved enough for the whole game. These are things Macca will work on and hopefully put right. At least we are 'struggling' with injuries and our side was always cobbled together with the amount of funds available. Teams such as Wire and Wigan must be far more worried, having spent a fortune on players yet no better than the Bulls.
cj wrote:
i've always thought that sykes is a bit suspect, he has a few good games and a few dire ones. i didn't expect us to win with a number of influential players out all i wanted to see was pride and passion from them. lets get rid of hape, his mind isn't on the game, get one or two players back and lets see what we can do. sacking the coach isn't a good idea as i've said before. if every team that had a bad season or two sacked their coach then it would be a sad state of affairs.
Well said Cj. There will be no doubt calls for the sacking of MacLelland and Noble after their dismal showing this week too! Harris played well, Koppy worked his socks off and Sol was immense. Tads did okay after his horrible injury last time out So many positives. Langley and Finnigan are not doing it for me. Evans was oblivious and I'm afraid Jefferies is not involved enough for the whole game. These are things Macca will work on and hopefully put right. At least we are 'struggling' with injuries and our side was always cobbled together with the amount of funds available. Teams such as Wire and Wigan must be far more worried, having spent a fortune on players yet no better than the Bulls.
Posted by: spiketacus, queensbury on 10:44am Sun 15 Jun 08
sorry haitch but the team wasn't cobbled together,macca targeted these recruits to give us more depth yet with a couple of exceptions they haven't worked.i don't want to see macca sacked but we're headless chickens at the minute and blaming it on injuries and refs is just daft.i used to chuckle at cullen with his incredibly positive interviews after his team had been stuffed but that's exactly where macca is now.i actually feel sorry for the fringe players cos he barely uses them off the bench yet they're the first to be dropped,matt james got dropped after getting 7 minutes game time ,how can that happen?i'm all for positives but shipping 60 points was terrible and when a team can't number up in defence it's not a good sign.
sorry haitch but the team wasn't cobbled together,macca targeted these recruits to give us more depth yet with a couple of exceptions they haven't worked.i don't want to see macca sacked but we're headless chickens at the minute and blaming it on injuries and refs is just daft.i used to chuckle at cullen with his incredibly positive interviews after his team had been stuffed but that's exactly where macca is now.i actually feel sorry for the fringe players cos he barely uses them off the bench yet they're the first to be dropped,matt james got dropped after getting 7 minutes game time ,how can that happen?i'm all for positives but shipping 60 points was terrible and when a team can't number up in defence it's not a good sign.
Posted by: bullybully, pontefract on 1:18pm Sun 15 Jun 08
It was a very upbeat and encouraging performance on Friday despite being on a hiding to nothing with the penalty count, and yes haitch I certainly agree with your comments about Cummings. We will never get a consitant referee with him in charge, I mean, come on Saints were just as guilty of infringing the rules and also the majority of those penalties were injust and unfair.
The main thing is that the spirit was there and I will say this again as I have already said numerous times, Macca is the man for the job. Sacking him will acheive absolutely didley squat and I think that more of us should be getting behind him. I also think that losing 3 other coaches in as manu weeks is absolutely ludicrous. There is no relegation this season which gives coaches a chance to blood the youngsters when a lot of the more experienced players are injured, however I must admit at the frustration of Macca not playing the likes of carlile and Hyde a few more times. They are the future of the club and this is the time that they need to prove themselves at the top level. A lot of the pressure from the boards of these clubs have been coming from the numpty supporters who are too impatient. As I have said, Superleague have grown increasingly competetive over the last two years. Who would have thought Catalan would have been in the top six. Any team can beat anyone on their day, look at the Harlequin and Whino score.
We will get back to those winning days again but the most important fact is WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT.
COME ON YOU BULLS !!!
It was a very upbeat and encouraging performance on Friday despite being on a hiding to nothing with the penalty count, and yes haitch I certainly agree with your comments about Cummings. We will never get a consitant referee with him in charge, I mean, come on Saints were just as guilty of infringing the rules and also the majority of those penalties were injust and unfair.
The main thing is that the spirit was there and I will say this again as I have already said numerous times, Macca is the man for the job. Sacking him will acheive absolutely didley squat and I think that more of us should be getting behind him. I also think that losing 3 other coaches in as manu weeks is absolutely ludicrous. There is no relegation this season which gives coaches a chance to blood the youngsters when a lot of the more experienced players are injured, however I must admit at the frustration of Macca not playing the likes of carlile and Hyde a few more times. They are the future of the club and this is the time that they need to prove themselves at the top level. A lot of the pressure from the boards of these clubs have been coming from the numpty supporters who are too impatient. As I have said, Superleague have grown increasingly competetive over the last two years. Who would have thought Catalan would have been in the top six. Any team can beat anyone on their day, look at the Harlequin and Whino score.
We will get back to those winning days again but the most important fact is WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT.
COME ON YOU BULLS !!!
Posted by: bullybully, pontefract on 1:23pm Sun 15 Jun 08
Hey haitch, I know you live quite a way but, do you ever get to any of the games or do you just have to listen to the coverage on Radio Leeds. I must admit that you, me and micksey and a few of the others are the only ones to be positive about the club. (sorry about the others that I have forgotten)
Hey haitch, I know you live quite a way but, do you ever get to any of the games or do you just have to listen to the coverage on Radio Leeds. I must admit that you, me and micksey and a few of the others are the only ones to be positive about the club. (sorry about the others that I have forgotten)
Posted by: MadbullMick, All Over on 1:57pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]oddshapedball[/bold] wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good. [/quote] No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.[/quote] Almost agree Haitch, I would give the accolade of best and most loyal servant to Robbie Paul though.
haitch wrote:
oddshapedball wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
Almost agree Haitch, I would give the accolade of best and most loyal servant to Robbie Paul though.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 4:54pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]bullybully[/bold] wrote:
Hey haitch, I know you live quite a way but, do you ever get to any of the games or do you just have to listen to the coverage on Radio Leeds. I must admit that you, me and micksey and a few of the others are the only ones to be positive about the club. (sorry about the others that I have forgotten)[/quote] I don't go to any games I'm sad to say Since I moved to Lincs 5 yrs ago But I keep in touch as I am an avid sports fanatic and have been to more Northern/Bulls games than most on here will have had the proverbial hot dinners! I do miss the games and as an ex season ticket holder who has travelled home and away since early 60's its not the same. Still I do listen up and I watch Sky (not just my beloved Bulls but all games) I am glad people on here dont hit below the belt by saying "because you live away you dont have a right to opinionise" Fans of the Bulls are and always have been, spread world wide. Being long in the tooth doesn't make me any better judge but I've sure seen and heard it all before!! Keep faith and COME ON YOU BULLS!!
bullybully wrote:
Hey haitch, I know you live quite a way but, do you ever get to any of the games or do you just have to listen to the coverage on Radio Leeds. I must admit that you, me and micksey and a few of the others are the only ones to be positive about the club. (sorry about the others that I have forgotten)
I don't go to any games I'm sad to say Since I moved to Lincs 5 yrs ago But I keep in touch as I am an avid sports fanatic and have been to more Northern/Bulls games than most on here will have had the proverbial hot dinners! I do miss the games and as an ex season ticket holder who has travelled home and away since early 60's its not the same. Still I do listen up and I watch Sky (not just my beloved Bulls but all games) I am glad people on here dont hit below the belt by saying "because you live away you dont have a right to opinionise" Fans of the Bulls are and always have been, spread world wide. Being long in the tooth doesn't make me any better judge but I've sure seen and heard it all before!! Keep faith and COME ON YOU BULLS!!
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 4:57pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]MadbullMick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]haitch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]oddshapedball[/bold] wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good. [/quote] No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.[/quote] Almost agree Haitch, I would give the accolade of best and most loyal servant to Robbie Paul though.[/quote] Saw Robbie play his first game for Bulls in the reserves on a night you would not have put a cat out!! Got soaked through! Can't argue at all Robbie is right up there and I wish he was still around at Bfd in some capacity. Great lad.
MadbullMick wrote:
haitch wrote: oddshapedball wrote: More bad news for us. Another Kiwi on his way out. Big Joe is going at the end of this year. Sinking ship and rats come to mind. Hope things improve but they don't look good.
No I don't think it's that. Big Joe was generally thought to be in his last season anyway. But if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is) Big Joe has been the best and most loyal servant for the Bulls for years.He will be missed at the club and remembered as a monster on the field and a gentle giant off. So good luck Big Joe but it's a new era now and new faces will arrive.
Almost agree Haitch, I would give the accolade of best and most loyal servant to Robbie Paul though.
Saw Robbie play his first game for Bulls in the reserves on a night you would not have put a cat out!! Got soaked through! Can't argue at all Robbie is right up there and I wish he was still around at Bfd in some capacity. Great lad.
Posted by: League Junkie...!!!, **** up the rear on 5:37pm Sun 15 Jun 08
1 Leeds Rhinos
2 St Helens
3 Catalans Dragons
4 Warrington Wolves
5 Wigan Warriors
6 Wakefield Wildcats
[bold]7 Bradford Bulls[/bold]
8 Harlequins RL
9 Hull KR
10 Hull FC
11 Huddersfield Giants
12 Castleford Tigers
Keep up the good work McDonut, you're doing a sterling job.
1 Leeds Rhinos
2 St Helens
3 Catalans Dragons
4 Warrington Wolves
5 Wigan Warriors
6 Wakefield Wildcats
7 Bradford Bulls
8 Harlequins RL
9 Hull KR
10 Hull FC
11 Huddersfield Giants
12 Castleford Tigers
Keep up the good work McDonut, you're doing a sterling job.
Posted by: SHAUN, richmond on 6:37pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]micksey[/bold] wrote:
Shaun you often do have to look beyond the score, it's not an unfair or silly thing to say at all. For much of the game we were in it and with all the guys out and especially Deacon it's not as bad as it looks. [/quote] How about the table???
How about no silverware AGAIN! How about the huge amount of leaving supporters! How about players prefering the treatment table to the rugby pitch! How about a coach who believes the club is moving forward having just lost by more than 6 converted tries?!
What on earth has happened to this once (not that long ago) great club??!
micksey wrote:
Shaun you often do have to look beyond the score, it's not an unfair or silly thing to say at all. For much of the game we were in it and with all the guys out and especially Deacon it's not as bad as it looks.
How about the table???
How about no silverware AGAIN! How about the huge amount of leaving supporters! How about players prefering the treatment table to the rugby pitch! How about a coach who believes the club is moving forward having just lost by more than 6 converted tries?!
What on earth has happened to this once (not that long ago) great club??!
Posted by: damo, wibsey on 7:02pm Sun 15 Jun 08
i see you have returned lj all the people have been having a go at me with u not been her for me speaking my mind lol
i see you have returned lj all the people have been having a go at me with u not been her for me speaking my mind lol
Posted by: WIPSI, WIBSEY on 7:11pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote]Saw Robbie play his first game for Bulls in the reserves on a night you would not have put a cat out!! Got soaked through! Can't argue at all Robbie is right up there and I wish he was still around at Bfd in some capacity. Great lad.[/quote]
Saw the very same game Haitch, even then he was head and shoulders above,his passes were like bullets from a gun,we'll find another like him one day,hope its soon though!!
Saw Robbie play his first game for Bulls in the reserves on a night you would not have put a cat out!! Got soaked through! Can't argue at all Robbie is right up there and I wish he was still around at Bfd in some capacity. Great lad.
Saw the very same game Haitch, even then he was head and shoulders above,his passes were like bullets from a gun,we'll find another like him one day,hope its soon though!!
Posted by: League Junkie...!!!, **** up the rear on 7:25pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]damo[/bold] wrote:
i see you have returned lj all the people have been having a go at me with u not been her for me speaking my mind lol[/quote] I have mate, I have.
Its about time people started to realise that the Bulls ship is sinking.
Very average team coched by a very average coach.
damo wrote:
i see you have returned lj all the people have been having a go at me with u not been her for me speaking my mind lol
I have mate, I have.
Its about time people started to realise that the Bulls ship is sinking.
Very average team coched by a very average coach.
Posted by: preston bull, preston on 7:49pm Sun 15 Jun 08
I cannot believe that everybody is blaming the referee... talk of red black n amber colour glasses! wake up n smell the bull dust. we are an average side, playing at half power!
the penalties were given for things we did wrong.. FACT. how many times was Langers warned by the ref... at least 4. it was his job to get the message across to his troops, did he do this?? we were lucky to get to 60 odd minutes, was it, before we went down to 12 men. do you blame jamie for not getting the message across?? i know the both feet rule is a joke, but we need to get OUR ship in order, the rule's there, obey it, simple. lets not care if leeds n stains get away with whatever!
do we blame the coach?? maybe if THE PLAYERS hadnt given away the schoolboy penalties, the half-time score may have been different.. this may have led to a better 2nd half performance, and we may have won! Macca would then have been given the freedom of Bradford.
or maybe, if there was 3000 fans behind the posts instead of 300, all screaming and shouting, this may have inspired the boys.. who knows..
I think the Iestyn try was a joke.. thats a Stains ref (Ganson) giving summat against Stains at their own gig.. funny no-ones mentioned that! We're now outta the top 6, are we ever gonna get back in this year?
I remember 1 of the Sky wags saying that going to Stains and conceding that many points is nothing to be ashamed of, or words to that effect. Hmmm, am I missing something here, but a team with GF ambitions, to go anywhere and concede 50 points, I'd say they should be ashamed!
Just my thoughts.. David
I cannot believe that everybody is blaming the referee... talk of red black n amber colour glasses! wake up n smell the bull dust. we are an average side, playing at half power!
the penalties were given for things we did wrong.. FACT. how many times was Langers warned by the ref... at least 4. it was his job to get the message across to his troops, did he do this?? we were lucky to get to 60 odd minutes, was it, before we went down to 12 men. do you blame jamie for not getting the message across?? i know the both feet rule is a joke, but we need to get OUR ship in order, the rule's there, obey it, simple. lets not care if leeds n stains get away with whatever!
do we blame the coach?? maybe if THE PLAYERS hadnt given away the schoolboy penalties, the half-time score may have been different.. this may have led to a better 2nd half performance, and we may have won! Macca would then have been given the freedom of Bradford.
or maybe, if there was 3000 fans behind the posts instead of 300, all screaming and shouting, this may have inspired the boys.. who knows..
I think the Iestyn try was a joke.. thats a Stains ref (Ganson) giving summat against Stains at their own gig.. funny no-ones mentioned that! We're now outta the top 6, are we ever gonna get back in this year?
I remember 1 of the Sky wags saying that going to Stains and conceding that many points is nothing to be ashamed of, or words to that effect. Hmmm, am I missing something here, but a team with GF ambitions, to go anywhere and concede 50 points, I'd say they should be ashamed!
Just my thoughts.. David
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:39pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]preston bull[/bold] wrote:
I cannot believe that everybody is blaming the referee... talk of red black n amber colour glasses! wake up n smell the bull dust. we are an average side, playing at half power! the penalties were given for things we did wrong.. FACT. how many times was Langers warned by the ref... at least 4. it was his job to get the message across to his troops, did he do this?? we were lucky to get to 60 odd minutes, was it, before we went down to 12 men. do you blame jamie for not getting the message across?? i know the both feet rule is a joke, but we need to get OUR ship in order, the rule's there, obey it, simple. lets not care if leeds n stains get away with whatever! do we blame the coach?? maybe if THE PLAYERS hadnt given away the schoolboy penalties, the half-time score may have been different.. this may have led to a better 2nd half performance, and we may have won! Macca would then have been given the freedom of Bradford. or maybe, if there was 3000 fans behind the posts instead of 300, all screaming and shouting, this may have inspired the boys.. who knows.. I think the Iestyn try was a joke.. thats a Stains ref (Ganson) giving summat against Stains at their own gig.. funny no-ones mentioned that! We're now outta the top 6, are we ever gonna get back in this year? I remember 1 of the Sky wags saying that going to Stains and conceding that many points is nothing to be ashamed of, or words to that effect. Hmmm, am I missing something here, but a team with GF ambitions, to go anywhere and concede 50 points, I'd say they should be ashamed! Just my thoughts.. David[/quote] If that's the best you can do to support the lads, I say shame on you.
preston bull wrote:
I cannot believe that everybody is blaming the referee... talk of red black n amber colour glasses! wake up n smell the bull dust. we are an average side, playing at half power! the penalties were given for things we did wrong.. FACT. how many times was Langers warned by the ref... at least 4. it was his job to get the message across to his troops, did he do this?? we were lucky to get to 60 odd minutes, was it, before we went down to 12 men. do you blame jamie for not getting the message across?? i know the both feet rule is a joke, but we need to get OUR ship in order, the rule's there, obey it, simple. lets not care if leeds n stains get away with whatever! do we blame the coach?? maybe if THE PLAYERS hadnt given away the schoolboy penalties, the half-time score may have been different.. this may have led to a better 2nd half performance, and we may have won! Macca would then have been given the freedom of Bradford. or maybe, if there was 3000 fans behind the posts instead of 300, all screaming and shouting, this may have inspired the boys.. who knows.. I think the Iestyn try was a joke.. thats a Stains ref (Ganson) giving summat against Stains at their own gig.. funny no-ones mentioned that! We're now outta the top 6, are we ever gonna get back in this year? I remember 1 of the Sky wags saying that going to Stains and conceding that many points is nothing to be ashamed of, or words to that effect. Hmmm, am I missing something here, but a team with GF ambitions, to go anywhere and concede 50 points, I'd say they should be ashamed! Just my thoughts.. David
If that's the best you can do to support the lads, I say shame on you.
Posted by: haitch, Lincolnshire on 10:50pm Sun 15 Jun 08
[quote][bold]spiketacus[/bold] wrote:
sorry haitch but the team wasn't cobbled together,macca targeted these recruits to give us more depth yet with a couple of exceptions they haven't worked.i don't want to see macca sacked but we're headless chickens at the minute and blaming it on injuries and refs is just daft.i used to chuckle at cullen with his incredibly positive interviews after his team had been stuffed but that's exactly where macca is now.i actually feel sorry for the fringe players cos he barely uses them off the bench yet they're the first to be dropped,matt james got dropped after getting 7 minutes game time ,how can that happen?i'm all for positives but shipping 60 points was terrible and when a team can't number up in defence it's not a good sign.[/quote] Just to put the record straight here, The team was 'cobbled together' in the sense we had little cash. You say Macca 'targeted' those players but surely you realise he would have targeted much more quality if the club could have afforded it. Dont bang on about Macca. Look at people who have really targeted players like Noble..£450,000 on Fielden alone and goodness knows what players like Barrett and Richards and the like are costing. You knockers can never get things into perspective but love to lay it all at the Bulls door. The Bulls injuries are so significant at present with the key players being the ones injured. Get behind them, they need it.
spiketacus wrote:
sorry haitch but the team wasn't cobbled together,macca targeted these recruits to give us more depth yet with a couple of exceptions they haven't worked.i don't want to see macca sacked but we're headless chickens at the minute and blaming it on injuries and refs is just daft.i used to chuckle at cullen with his incredibly positive interviews after his team had been stuffed but that's exactly where macca is now.i actually feel sorry for the fringe players cos he barely uses them off the bench yet they're the first to be dropped,matt james got dropped after getting 7 minutes game time ,how can that happen?i'm all for positives but shipping 60 points was terrible and when a team can't number up in defence it's not a good sign.
Just to put the record straight here, The team was 'cobbled together' in the sense we had little cash. You say Macca 'targeted' those players but surely you realise he would have targeted much more quality if the club could have afforded it. Dont bang on about Macca. Look at people who have really targeted players like Noble..£450,000 on Fielden alone and goodness knows what players like Barrett and Richards and the like are costing. You knockers can never get things into perspective but love to lay it all at the Bulls door. The Bulls injuries are so significant at present with the key players being the ones injured. Get behind them, they need it.
Posted by: BigBullyBooaza, Bradford on 7:56am Mon 16 Jun 08
I was there on Friday and i have to tell you it was the best game I've been to this season in terms of pure enjoyment. The Bulls stood up and played their hearts out and not one man should have left that field with their head down.
The ref was an absolute joke. At one point in the first half the Bulls played the ball inside the 10 metre line and Graham was stood in front of the ref. He was then involved in the tackle yet no penalty. Still I doubt it would have changed the result maybe the scoreline which certainly didn't reflect the performance.
I was there on Friday and i have to tell you it was the best game I've been to this season in terms of pure enjoyment. The Bulls stood up and played their hearts out and not one man should have left that field with their head down.
The ref was an absolute joke. At one point in the first half the Bulls played the ball inside the 10 metre line and Graham was stood in front of the ref. He was then involved in the tackle yet no penalty. Still I doubt it would have changed the result maybe the scoreline which certainly didn't reflect the performance.
Posted by: Ralphie, Bradford on 8:57am Mon 16 Jun 08
Before hand everyone expected us to take a beating and when we actually got one we get the usual calls for Macca to go etc.
The one thing you can be sure when playing Saints is the score that they get against you is the maximum they could score since they never ease off and keep running in the points. Hence the 12 points in the last 10 minutes really rubbed salt into the wounds. Once Finnigan was sin binned Saints spread the ball across the park and ran us ragged.
What surprised me was the small number of Bulls fans there. I can't recall going to an away match in reasonable travelling distance and seeing so few.
Before hand everyone expected us to take a beating and when we actually got one we get the usual calls for Macca to go etc.
The one thing you can be sure when playing Saints is the score that they get against you is the maximum they could score since they never ease off and keep running in the points. Hence the 12 points in the last 10 minutes really rubbed salt into the wounds. Once Finnigan was sin binned Saints spread the ball across the park and ran us ragged.
What surprised me was the small number of Bulls fans there. I can't recall going to an away match in reasonable travelling distance and seeing so few.
Posted by: cj on 9:39am Mon 16 Jun 08
i for one, don't really care this season if we get into the play offs or not, it would be nice if we did but not the end of the world if we don't. i will be disappointed however, if next season, with 3 big wages out of the way we don't sign quality and play with more consistancy than we have this year. 8 injuries equates to half of your first team so it's bound to have an effect. with regards travelling fans, don't you think it a bit silly of sky to change friday night game times to 7.30 from 8? people that work may not get home until 6 which doesn't give a lot of time to get along the m62, i'm in east yorks so wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance, along with that we have the general cost of living, something has to give and i'm affraid i can see that being the games, especially away games.
i for one, don't really care this season if we get into the play offs or not, it would be nice if we did but not the end of the world if we don't. i will be disappointed however, if next season, with 3 big wages out of the way we don't sign quality and play with more consistancy than we have this year. 8 injuries equates to half of your first team so it's bound to have an effect. with regards travelling fans, don't you think it a bit silly of sky to change friday night game times to 7.30 from 8? people that work may not get home until 6 which doesn't give a lot of time to get along the m62, i'm in east yorks so wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance, along with that we have the general cost of living, something has to give and i'm affraid i can see that being the games, especially away games.
Posted by: Ralphie, Bradford on 10:04am Mon 16 Jun 08
[quote][bold]cj[/bold] wrote:
i for one, don't really care this season if we get into the play offs or not, it would be nice if we did but not the end of the world if we don't. i will be disappointed however, if next season, with 3 big wages out of the way we don't sign quality and play with more consistancy than we have this year. 8 injuries equates to half of your first team so it's bound to have an effect. with regards travelling fans, don't you think it a bit silly of sky to change friday night game times to 7.30 from 8? people that work may not get home until 6 which doesn't give a lot of time to get along the m62, i'm in east yorks so wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance, along with that we have the general cost of living, something has to give and i'm affraid i can see that being the games, especially away games.[/quote] When have Sky ever taken into account supporters irrespective of the sport they are covering? I work in Lancashire so getting there was n't a problem but I was n't to happy when I topped the car up next morning and realised how much it had cost me.
What also annoys me with Sky is how seldom they appear to cover Catalan home games. Since only small numbers of UK fans attend these games supporters are left in the dark about how their team as played.
cj wrote:
i for one, don't really care this season if we get into the play offs or not, it would be nice if we did but not the end of the world if we don't. i will be disappointed however, if next season, with 3 big wages out of the way we don't sign quality and play with more consistancy than we have this year. 8 injuries equates to half of your first team so it's bound to have an effect. with regards travelling fans, don't you think it a bit silly of sky to change friday night game times to 7.30 from 8? people that work may not get home until 6 which doesn't give a lot of time to get along the m62, i'm in east yorks so wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance, along with that we have the general cost of living, something has to give and i'm affraid i can see that being the games, especially away games.
When have Sky ever taken into account supporters irrespective of the sport they are covering? I work in Lancashire so getting there was n't a problem but I was n't to happy when I topped the car up next morning and realised how much it had cost me.
What also annoys me with Sky is how seldom they appear to cover Catalan home games. Since only small numbers of UK fans attend these games supporters are left in the dark about how their team as played.
Posted by: Adrian, Bradford on 12:58pm Mon 16 Jun 08
Wow...I don't think I've ever read as much drivel from some spineless excuse of fans! Have you heard yourselves? Sack Macca, crap players, not gonna do this, not gonna win that...you're all a bunch of glory supporters! I keep saying if you don't like it then Leeds is down the road, Huddersfield, Wakey, Cas...all stones throw away! I'm sure they'd kill for this kind of backstabbing experts! ya ya ya all the moaning and whinging blah blah...does my head in! You can all do so much better can't ya?
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! We don't have a god given right to be in the playoffs. We don't have the god given right to be the best team in the world all the time and most importantly, we've not bottom of the league.
Wow...I don't think I've ever read as much drivel from some spineless excuse of fans! Have you heard yourselves? Sack Macca, crap players, not gonna do this, not gonna win that...you're all a bunch of glory supporters! I keep saying if you don't like it then Leeds is down the road, Huddersfield, Wakey, Cas...all stones throw away! I'm sure they'd kill for this kind of backstabbing experts! ya ya ya all the moaning and whinging blah blah...does my head in! You can all do so much better can't ya?
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! We don't have a god given right to be in the playoffs. We don't have the god given right to be the best team in the world all the time and most importantly, we've not bottom of the league.
Posted by: micksey, wibsey on 2:15pm Mon 16 Jun 08
I've said and I'll say it again - GOOD TIMES & BAD!! Come on the BULLS!!!!!!
I've said and I'll say it again - GOOD TIMES & BAD!! Come on the BULLS!!!!!!
Posted by: SHAUN, richmond on 2:22pm Mon 16 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Adrian[/bold] wrote:
Wow...I don't think I've ever read as much drivel from some spineless excuse of fans! Have you heard yourselves? Sack Macca, crap players, not gonna do this, not gonna win that...you're all a bunch of glory supporters! I keep saying if you don't like it then Leeds is down the road, Huddersfield, Wakey, Cas...all stones throw away! I'm sure they'd kill for this kind of backstabbing experts! ya ya ya all the moaning and whinging blah blah...does my head in! You can all do so much better can't ya? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! We don't have a god given right to be in the playoffs. We don't have the god given right to be the best team in the world all the time and most importantly, we've not bottom of the league.[/quote] McNamaras love child by any chance????
Adrian wrote:
Wow...I don't think I've ever read as much drivel from some spineless excuse of fans! Have you heard yourselves? Sack Macca, crap players, not gonna do this, not gonna win that...you're all a bunch of glory supporters! I keep saying if you don't like it then Leeds is down the road, Huddersfield, Wakey, Cas...all stones throw away! I'm sure they'd kill for this kind of backstabbing experts! ya ya ya all the moaning and whinging blah blah...does my head in! You can all do so much better can't ya? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! We don't have a god given right to be in the playoffs. We don't have the god given right to be the best team in the world all the time and most importantly, we've not bottom of the league.
McNamaras love child by any chance????
Posted by: League Junkie...!!!, **** up the rear on 2:43pm Mon 16 Jun 08
We could do so much better if we got rid of the poor coach and his team.
We could do so much better if we got rid of the poor coach and his team.
Posted by: Adrian, Bradford on 2:50pm Mon 16 Jun 08
[quote][bold]League Junkie...!!![/bold] wrote:
We could do so much better if we got rid of the poor coach and his team.[/quote] Then maybe the Rhinos should have done us a favour and kept the legal case going. Save us all the hassle of moaning about a team by watching it go under.
League Junkie...!!! wrote:
We could do so much better if we got rid of the poor coach and his team.
Then maybe the Rhinos should have done us a favour and kept the legal case going. Save us all the hassle of moaning about a team by watching it go under.
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